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contessa
Big Kahuna
USA
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 Posted - 02/23/2009 : 16:06:52
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Dude & Marc, you're both correct. It's perception. We've been going to Orient for many years and have made the BEST friends, none of which are swingers. However, Orient does have it's share. We've been approached only 2 times in 23 yrs. and refused both times. I sure hope those 2 couples have met![;)] But, in all those years those are the only times we've been approached. I think there's a secret look or something!! [:D]
Marc, I don't think swingers are more open-minded than anyone else, they're more open to their needs and wants. I think most of us, who frequent nude beaches, are open-minded or we wouldn't be there.
We had a discussion this weekend with friends who've never been to a nude beach and had a 'perception' that most people frequenting nude beaches are 'swingers'. That word again, 'perception'! I'd really like to see that changed. Education is key!
[:D] Contessa
Life is Great...
Pahty with Contessa! |
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zarnill
Big Kahuna
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Posted - 02/23/2009 : 16:45:39
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We had a discussion this weekend with friends who've never been to a nude beach and had a 'perception' that most people frequenting nude beaches are 'swingers'. That word again, 'perception'! I'd really like to see that changed. Education is key!
Contessa
Yea I totally agree with this statement. If we did a 'root cause analysis' I think people would realize how silly bathing suits are. You could even apply six-sigma 5 Why analysis and root cause testing to see why people really want to wear bathing suits. But, that is a different thread so I don't want to de-rail the thread I started (but I would enjoy seeing that topic).
Doing a bit more thinking on the main topic. If a gay man comes up and hits on me I'd be totally offended because I wear a wedding band (not because hes gay)... If a women comes up and hits on me I'd be offended because I am wearing a wedding band... If a couple comes up its the same thing for me. Equal application of moral logic.
From what I am seeing on these posts, the guy that did ask with our three kids playing around us on a family beach (not Orient) showed horrible judgment. But that does not reflect on the entire swinger community.
I have a hard time understanding why its said swingers can't be naturists. Seems like saying Catholics can't be naturists. I don't understand the connection (I am a bit slow you know :) ).
I can see clearly the conerns of the clothesfreetv people who posted the article because if everyone who went to a naturist resort was subject to being asked if they were swingers would scare away new folks who tried naturism out and alienate many other folks. If you went to a restaurant and had other people come up and ask if they could have sex with your wife you would probably not go again. Then on the other side, I've not heard anyone say they have been approached many times either....
So is it that swingers can be naturists but should not ask the question at known family friendly locations? More thoughts are swirling on this topic in my head still. I'm trying to find a way to be kind to everyone while not being exposed to an environment I don't agree with. It almost seems like 'unspoken rules' would solve all the concerns.
BTW, very nice discussion. Have not heard any attacks yet.. :) |
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Nautimicpl
Kahuna
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2009 : 18:25:50
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I guess its about time for the Swinger perspective! LOL! We are.... and quite frankly if a couple is of interest and somewhat talk like swingers we have asked discreetly as it is difficult to sort it out at Club 0. For the cpl that was asked that in front of children...that was wrong if it was not done discreetly. There will always be people in different lifestyles that have no class but nothing you can do about it as "it is what it is"! We have learned the swingers tend to hang out near the Perch which is where we will hang out near. If we find a interesting couple I will discreetly ask "whats the rules" LOL!
Its all about fun for us and if it leads to more by mutual interest thats a bonus, but just because we meet swingers does not mean we have sex with all of them! |
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RichardKenner
Big Kahuna
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2009 : 18:37:22
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Originally posted by Nautimicpl
it is difficult to sort it out at Club 0.
To me, that's the fundamental problem. I think it should be very clear and unambiguous whether a place is or is not a place that swingers are likely to meet up. Being clear benefits both parties: you aren't going to waste time approaching people who aren't interested and those people will avoid possibly being offended.
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dannan
Big Kahuna
USA
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Posted - 02/23/2009 : 19:54:09
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Originally posted by Nautimicpl
I guess its about time for the Swinger perspective! LOL! We are.... and quite frankly if a couple is of interest and somewhat talk like swingers we have asked discreetly as it is difficult to sort it out at Club 0. For the cpl that was asked that in front of children...that was wrong if it was not done discreetly. There will always be people in different lifestyles that have no class but nothing you can do about it as "it is what it is"! We have learned the swingers tend to hang out near the Perch which is where we will hang out near. If we find a interesting couple I will discreetly ask "whats the rules" LOL!
Its all about fun for us and if it leads to more by mutual interest thats a bonus, but just because we meet swingers does not mean we have sex with all of them!
my wife and i are not swingers, but always hang out around the perch bar. the reason being, we park at pedro's and must carry everything up the beach. we stop near the perch because of happy hour. i guess if you are a big drinking swinger you have found valhalla.
villa "Joie de Vie" - walk to orient, it's just a few steps from the villa. |
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CathyandSteve
Vacationer
USA
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Posted - 02/24/2009 : 18:40:01
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I don't consider myself a nudist, a naturist, a swinger or anything else. I like to go to resorts that allow me the option of sunbathing nude....period.
I don't eat nude, I don't dance nude, I don't walk nude. I don't have sex with anyone but my husband.
We have been to both hedos, desires, braco, hidden beach resort, and CLub orient. We have been asked at every resort we have been to if we are a lifestyle couple. We politely say no. No explanation is needed. A lifestyle couple looking for other lifestyle couples will move on in their search....they won't watse time on us.
My mother knows we go to nude resorts...she assumes that we have sex with everybody. Sex and nudity go hand in hand in many peoples minds. I assure her we don't....I am not sure she believes me. In reality..I guess it doen't matter one way or the other. I don't hasve to justify what I do to anyone else and I know the truth.
It is what it is...period. |
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jds
Islander
USA
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Posted - 02/24/2009 : 19:07:05
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| Being a nudist is being natural and being a lifestyler is being natural for the way that you are wired sexually, so it both are very natural lifestyles. Enjoy and don't get hung up on labels cause not much separates all of us. socal |
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ibthejury
Explorer
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Posted - 11/02/2009 : 14:36:32
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| Interesting topic. My wife and I are new to the naturist scene. My wife and I are both active and attractive. We were a little put off by assumptions made that naked means swingers. We enjoy each other and we enjoy being naked in a social environment. We do not enjoy swinging. |
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Swingers Damaging Naturism?
